Holy shit that's incredible!! :shock:. A New Zealander was also one of the first to invent a water powered engine.

Moved to Unrelated Media ;)

hope they get this technology going sooner then later petrol prices are bull.

and imagine the reduction in pollution i think its a great idea.

I have a feeling this guy will go missing sooner or later....

i think he will go missing too

these bloody oil companies and country suppliers will stop at nothing so we continue to use petrol

and pollute the earth :2pistols:

Yeah, they won't be going down without a fight :ak47:

many people have already been killed by unknown persons for revealing technology such as this... hmmm shit eh?

Yeah, just like the astronauts who "traveled to the moon" *cough*. Mysteriously disappeared without a trace.

There were a Dad and son on the news last night who converted their old gas guzzling Ford into a hydrogen/fuel powered car. The hydrogen was assisting the fuel and was burning the fuel better so they got more miles per gallon.

They compared two of the exact same cars and filled both tanks right up with gas, they both had to travel 100km. The one that WASNT running the hydrogen set-up used 20L for the 100km drive, the one that WAS running the hydrogen set-up used only 5L for the 100km drive!!

All it takes is two litres of water per week to get huge savings like that, the set-up didn't look complicated at all either. They were just sending electric charges through the water. The car wasn't fully run on water, the water is just to assist the gas to burn more thoroughly therefor getting you further.

one thing you got to wonder, is there any power lost in this new fuel source...

Apparently not, because the water is only helping the fuel ignite better and not solely running the car I'd say you shouldn't lose any power. The fuel was igniting at 70% before the install and igniting 80% after the install, so more kms per litre and less emissions.

I dont see how this works at all or providing better fuel economy.

The engine is still being injected with the normal fuel system and its injectors.

Unless the change in airfuel ratio affects the o2 sensor and leaning out the engine.

Google is your friend.

It's not the water as a whole that it runs on it's the hydrogen produced from the water... kindof like battery acid

Exactly Steve! It's just assisting the petrol, not solely dependable on petrol. Although people have done that before too, I'm sure on Top Gear one day they ran a car on cooking oil...

That was a diesel engine though.

They didn't disappear lol. They were entrenched in a media-less existence. They were all members of the 33rd something-or-other Masons, that was their ticket to the moon and that was what kept 'em quiet. Secret society's and all that, but just like this water-splitting power and Nikola Tesla's plasma ball, someone or something is preventing all these great ideas being explored publicly. Do i sound like a nutter yet?

If you can find it check out Space Race on dvd. From the time they landed on the moon until the time the first foot was set on the moon was exactly 33 minutes. Conspiracy? I'll say no more.

If water splitting can provide basically free power it's 100 years behind another "classified" idea that would have provided free electricity worldwide. Check out Nikola Tesla. Your mobile phone antenna exists because of him. Westinghouse, JP Morgan and Edison screwed him completely. That's why GE is now one of the biggest companies in the world. Same reason why oil companies are so big.

Something I've wondered is... if man really landed on the moon all those years ago when our technology was no-where near the level it is today, why have we not revisited the moon since?

I believe it's a conspiracy completely!

Me too! The programme I watched was very convincing.

Me too! The programme I watched was very convincing.

:D They always are!

I believe it's a conspiracy completely!

If it's not a conspiracy it can only be one thing: OH&S.

Nah i reckon the technology is available, there's just no incentive for R & D as there is still money to be made from existing technologies. What we really need is another "proper" world war. To spark a Technological Revolution. Like what WWII did for the Industrial Revolution. I'm sure if China has it's way and strangles the US of A of oil, then the yanks will have no choice but to invest in newer technology. Then we'll see what it's really all about. Anyone seen lately how George Dubya is trying to turn around congresses decision to not drill for oil off america's coast. China have a plan that's for sure.

Yeah I was watching this on the international news yesterday (they didn't even show it on the national news!). I can believe George Bush wants to disturb all that wildlife and say "it's not going to cause any harm". Anyway, making more oil isn't going to bring the prices down. George Bush is as thick as Helen Clarke, dare I say, thicker.

well i dont know about water power

but beer power seems to be working well for me tonight :D

On TV tomorrow they're going to show us how to make a hydrogen system for your car. I'll have to watch it :).

I watched the programme on TV last night, it was live and they had two different hydrogen systems in the studio. One guy has installed it in a Toyota Corolla but hasn't done much testing yet so can't say how much fuel his one will save.

The second guy actually only lives down the road from me and is selling his systems for $675 fully installed. He SWEARS by it and has even staked his business name on it. He claims that it'll save you at least 25% on your fuel bill or your money back.
All the system consists of is a few bottles, water, baking soda and a battery wire. He might be onto a winner.

Here's the video link (as I posted in Brazza's thread)

http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/CampbellLive/tabid/367/articleID/60466/cat/84/Default.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah I was watching this on the international news yesterday (they didn't even show it on the national news!). I can believe George Bush wants to disturb all that wildlife and say "it's not going to cause any harm". Anyway, making more oil isn't going to bring the prices down. George Bush is as thick as Helen Clarke, dare I say, thicker.

It's not so much about the environment. Apparently China is outbidding USA for oil, which implies that america may not be getting as much oil from the arabs as they used to. Or they no longer have first dibs. Basically if chinas oil usage continues to grow and they continue to pay a premium price for it then america has to look elsewhere for their oil. Because if they don't have oil they're defence forces become crippled. Perhaps china is trying to weaken america and then who knows, maybe attack them and take over the world. They're very patient the chinese. Could be like a 20-50 year plan for global domination and with thier population it's entirely possible. Plenty of meat for the slaughter.

The second guy actually only lives down the road from me and is selling his systems for $675 fully installed. He SWEARS by it and has even staked his business name on it. He claims that it'll save you at least 25% on your fuel bill or your money back.
All the system consists of is a few bottles, water, baking soda and a battery wire. He might be onto a winner.

I was watching top gear season 4 episode 6 and they actually ran a rover on cow turd and human turd. The cars were already lpg equipped and there is a special process to extract the methane from the turds, but it worked. It was nowhere near as quick as petrol but they ran pretty well considering it was turd power. And the human crap outdragged the cow crap. So we get more bang for our bog than cows. Only thing is that a cow can shit up to 50kgs a day where most people would be lucky to squeeze out 1 or 2.

There are heaps of alternate power sources available. From what i said above, just say china does squeeze america out of the grab for oil. America will be left with no choice but to either find their own oil or use an alternate energy source. China may well be doing the world a favour because i reckon all sorts of alternatives would come out of the woodwork in america if they could no longer rely on oil. Anyway thats my 2 cents worth.

Haha always a guaranteed laugh!

:D

Very good points there when it comes to oil 8)

Around this time last month I posted the video in this thread of the hydrogen powered cars being home-made over here.

The second guy that came on didn't know how much fuel he saved by having the system installed so they were going to check back with him in a months time.

The time has come and they're going to interview him again tonight. Should be interesting...Will post up the outcome later on.

Well the guy said he's changed the design quite alot over the last month and that he had a few 'interesting' moments with it. One unit melted from heat, while another one blew up from an electrical spare. His final outcome is that he did not save a drop of fuel....how disappointing. He hasn't given up just yet though.

I'm doing a bit of research on this topic as I plan to build a Hydroxy unit. So far I have read some convincing stuff including Archie's original patents, a few peoples designs and a .PDF on Electrolytic Gas. There are lots of people just playing with the idea, and a few who might be on the right Track.

That man on C live was just playing around, most peoples units end up boiling the water producing steam. That is not the desired outcome, its a result of people running 12 volt current through their electrodes witch is 10 volts higher than the required 2 volts. Hence the boiling.

Hydroxy (Browns gas, H+H+O) is 2 parts fuel 1 part oxidizer. Hydroxy can be burnt!

:angel: To Day I detonated Hydroxy gas :angel:

I made a small Hydoxy electrode. Using the following materials a tiny mustard jar, two wires and a plastic tube. When I hooked it up to the battery tiny gas bubbles floated to the surface and up the tube. I put my finger over the tube till I felt pressure then flicked my BIC lighter and took the flame to the end of the tube. :yippee: WHAT A BANG :yippee: So yes I can confirm that I am a suicidal idiot. But I've proven that H+H+O divided by fire equals bang, thus is can be used for a preoxidized fuel source.

You keep playing around with things like that and you'll miss having ten fingers when the torque steer takes hold :guitar: